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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Barty 5:27 Wed Apr 25
Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
I know it´s Kumb but still...

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Top ten a pipe dream under current regime?

West Ham United's record under the club's current administration is the worst in the Premier League era.

Since the old Division One disappeared in 1992, following the formation of the Premier League in a breakaway from the Football League, West Ham have had three majority owners - Terry Brown (1992-2006), Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson/Straumur (2006-2010) and David Sullivan & David Gold (since 2010).

And whilst teams on the much-maligned Brown's watch averaged a 14th-place finish, and under the Icelandics' far-shorter-lived reign an even more impressive 11th, performances under the Sullivan/Gold banner have resulted in an average finish of just 15th - the lowest of all three majority owners.

The shy Brown, who was eventually hounded out of the club following a storm of protests and negative publicity in the first half of the noughties saw the club achieve seven top ten finishes on his watch (14 seasons in total), including United's second-highest top-flight finish of 5th under Harry Redknapp in 1998/99.

And whilst West Ham also finished in the top half of the table twice in the Icelandics three seasons (under Alan Curbishley and Gianfranco Zola), they have managed it just once since Sullivan and Gold arrived at the club eight years ago - in the final, emotional season at The Boleyn Ground (Slaven Bilic).

In terms of Cup competitions, the Brown era resulted in the club reaching five quarter finals and one final (the 2006 FA Cup Final) whilst there was just the one quarter final during Gudmundsson's three-year tenure.

However since Sullivan and Gold arrived at the club there have been four quarter final appearances and two semi finals - both in the League Cup - although two were in the duo's first season (an FA Cup quarter final and a League Cup semi) under Avram Grant, which also resulted in relegation to the Championship.

Brown & Cearns

Seasons: 2nd* (92/93); 13th (93/94); 14th (94/95); 10th (95/96); 14th (96/97); 8th (97/98); 5th (98/99); 9th (99/00); 15th (00/01); 7th (01/02); 18th (02/03); 4th* (03/04); 6th* (04/05); 9th (05/06)

Average position: 14th
Top ten finishes: 7/14 (50%)
Relegations: 1 (2002/03)


Gudmundsson & Magnusson

Seasons: 15th (06/07); 10th (07/08); 9th (08/09)

Average position: 11th
Top ten finishes: 2/3 (67%)
Relegations: 0


Sullivan & Gold

Seasons: 17th (09/10); 20th (10/11); 3rd* (11/12); 10th (12/13); 13th (13/14); 12th (14/15); 7th (15/16); 11th (16/17); 15th (17/18)

Average position: 15th
Top ten finishes: 1/9 (11%)
Relegations: 1 (2010/11)


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cup of tea 5:37 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
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cornish 5:42 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
In all my years supporting the club I still think Brown and Cearns were the worst ever.

cup of tea 5:43 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
At least Brown was/is West Ham (to a degree) Not anywhere near these parasites

cornish 5:49 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
I don't care,the bloke is a wrongen I for one am glad he has no serious input ,I actually hate Brown.

CR 5:49 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
I think they are as bad as each other. The difference is this lot make false promises and that’s what I cannot forgive them for.

Darlo Debs 6:01 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
I am.no fan of any of them, but on the grounds that the icelandics nearly bankrupted us, i'd have to say they are the worst.

Vexed 6:02 Wed Apr 25
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Brown was a cunt with no ambition but he didn't claim to be anything else. Even so football was much more enjoyable back then.

The Icelanders had money, spent it on rubbish and then got skint. Had to like Eggy though, properly wanted to do well but failed.

G&S are classless fucking shitbags who have lied from day one and are truly incompetent when it comes to running a football club. I hope they fuck off soon. By far the worst bunch of cunts.

Swiss. 6:12 Wed Apr 25
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Vexed 6:02 Wed Apr 25

factory seconds 6:14 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
knocking down the boleyn to make a few quid from their property mates and moving us to that festering plastic sore is so far and above anything any other owner has come close to doing that it's not even a competition.

Swiss. 6:34 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
I'm looking back in fondness of the Terry Brown era. FMOB.

Says it all really.

Texas Iron 6:35 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
Sadly the Stats clearly show how far the 3 current ownership have dragged the club into the lower elements of the Prem...at the same time as losing our identity...values and football...
The Owners have had a financial plan from the first days to maximise their personal profit at the cost of WHUFC values and history...
All about the FUCKING Brand...and they haven't even done that well...Complete smash nd grab raid of a once proud club...
Would I buy a season ticket if I lived in London...
Yes...if still at Boleyn...One season at OS...BUT doubt I'd re ew after this season's fiasco...
And the future looks bleak with this greedy mob...
Sad...

mallard 6:37 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
So Brown/Cearns averaged 14th place and Gold/Sullivan averaged 15th.

Hardly a big difference !

Texas Iron 7:03 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
Mallard...
more top 10 finishes...Brown ...Cearns... and generally better football...

Fo the Communist 7:13 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
It beggars belief that people don't think GSB are the worst owners by a country fucking mile after the irreparable damage those three seedy cunts have done to the club, it's heritage, it's fanbase and it's soul.
I hated Brown with a passion but he's like a national treasure compared to the current shitheel fuckers running the show.

cartis 7:16 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
Fo the Communist 7:13 Wed Apr 25

Wholeheartedly agree with every word.

These two are fucking disgusting greedy cunts who one way or another must be hounded out.

There is no future whatsoever under them.

factory seconds 7:18 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
tex, the thing that gets me about the whole BRAND BUILDING exercise is that they blatantly didn't have a clue about what the actual strengths of the west ham brand were.

moving us to the hotpoint is like getting cocksparrer to play the royal variety show.

El Scorchio 7:37 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
The ONLY thing I'd say in their defence is that everyone in the whole division is spending more money now and although points levels seem a bit lower, there's a more level competition and more teams capable of finishing in decent positions.

We used to talk about 3-4 mini leagues in the division. There's only two now. Top 6 and everyone else.

However, it's also damning as it indicates they haven't upped the spend in line with other teams to maintain our former performance level. So despite the game changing around them, they haven't bothered to try and keep pace or in any way put their money where their mouth is.

So fuck them.

Being a worse owner than Brown is some feat- and everyone else who has commented on that is correct. Brown may have been shit but he didn't give any delusions of being anything else. These three came in promising the earth and have delivered nothing like it.

Alex V 7:42 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
Don't disagree with the conclusions but the 'science' here is utter nonsense.

Of course the Icelandics were in charge for more of the 09/10 season so they should get that season. And including this season is probably a bit daft as it isn't over. I'd be fairly sure that would even out the numbers a lot, might even put S&G in first. You could also say that since we were promoted again under S&G our average is a whole lot better. It's all about how you spin these numbers.

El Scorchio 7:46 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
You could say that, but however you spin it they certainly haven't delivered anything like the glories they promised!

Alex V 7:47 Wed Apr 25
Re: Sullivan and Gold are the worst West Ham owners in the premierleague era
Points per game might be a more useful comparison.

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